Ticket Update
Hi - I have posted a follow up question on an old thread an would appreciate any help! I am making this post, as it is not clear where I can submit an official ticket otherwise. Can be seen here: Transceiver data corruption | Altera Community Please do feel free to delete this post when somone is assigned to the issue. Thanks.
Agilex 5 IOPLL Max Numbers and Tool Display Mismatch
Hello everyone Let me discuss the title. [Question] What is the maximum number of IOPLLs (Bank IOPLLs, Fabric Feeding IOPLLs, and perspective of whether System PLL can be used for other purpose ) on an A5EC008BB32AE5S, both device wide and bank/block wise? In particular, I would like to know the official opinion on how Quartus Pro Edition (Fitter/Report) and Power and Thermal Calculator count the upper limit on IO96B (HSIO) banks and the upper limit on HVIO blocks. Please check the attached file for details. Best RegardsTransceiver data corruption
I am trying to externally loopback a simple data-stream using the GTS on the Agilex 5, over an external QSFP loopback module. The GTS is configured as followed: External clock chip: Outputs 156.25 MHz clock verified using an oscilloscope. System PLL: Outputs 125 MHz to the GTS. GTS: Basic PMA Direct System PLL freq: 125 MHz PMA speed: 1250 Mbps PMA width: 10 TX/RX PLL/CDR: 156.25 MHz TX/RX core interface FIFO: single width TX/RX clock: System PLL clock /1 The RTL used to transfer data over TX: module top( input CPU_RESET_n, input REFCLK, output gts_o_tx_serial_data, output gts_o_tx_serial_data_n, input gts_i_rx_serial_data, input gts_i_rx_serial_data_n ); // gts logic gts_pma_cu_clk_i; logic gts_tx_reset, gts_rx_reset; logic gts_tx_reset_ack, gts_rx_reset_ack; logic gts_tx_ready, gts_rx_ready; logic tx_coreclkin, rx_coreclkin; (* noprune *) logic gts_tx_clkout, gts_rx_clkout; logic gts_rs_grant_i; logic gts_rc_rs_req_o; (* noprune *) logic gts_tx_pll_locked /* synthesis keep */; (* noprune *) logic gts_rx_is_lockedtodata /* synthesis keep */; (* noprune *) logic gts_rx_is_lockedtoref /* synthesis keep */; logic o_refclk2core; (* noprune *) logic [79:0] gts_i_tx_parallel_data /* synthesis keep */; (* noprune *) logic [79:0] gts_o_rx_parallel_data /* synthesis keep */; assign gts_pma_cu_clk_i = srcss_bank1_pma_cu_clk_o; assign tx_coreclkin = gts_tx_clkout; assign rx_coreclkin = gts_rx_clkout; assign gts_rs_grant_i = srcss_bank1_rs_grant_o; // reset sequencer signals logic srcss_bank1_rs_grant_o; logic srcss_bank1_rs_priority; logic srcss_bank1_rc_rs_req; logic srcss_bank1_pma_cu_clk_o; assign srcss_bank1_rs_priority = '0; assign srcss_bank1_rc_rs_req = gts_rc_rs_req_o; // system pll signals logic gts_systempll_refclk_rdy; assign gts_systempll_refclk_rdy = 1'b1; gts_top u0 ( // gts .gts_top_clock_bridge_rx_in_clk_clk (QSFP_REFCLK_p), .gts_top_clock_bridge_tx_in_clk_clk (QSFP_REFCLK_p), .intel_directphy_gts_0_i_pma_cu_clk_clk (gts_pma_cu_clk_i), .intel_directphy_gts_0_i_tx_reset_tx_reset (gts_tx_reset), .intel_directphy_gts_0_i_rx_reset_rx_reset (gts_rx_reset), .intel_directphy_gts_0_o_tx_reset_ack_tx_reset_ack (gts_tx_reset_ack), .intel_directphy_gts_0_o_rx_reset_ack_rx_reset_ack (gts_rx_reset_ack), .intel_directphy_gts_0_o_tx_ready_tx_ready (gts_tx_ready), .intel_directphy_gts_0_o_rx_ready_rx_ready (gts_rx_ready), .intel_directphy_gts_0_i_tx_coreclkin_clk (tx_coreclkin), .intel_directphy_gts_0_i_rx_coreclkin_clk (rx_coreclkin), .intel_directphy_gts_0_o_tx_clkout_clk (gts_tx_clkout), .intel_directphy_gts_0_o_rx_clkout_clk (gts_rx_clkout), .intel_directphy_gts_0_i_src_rs_grant_src_rs_grant (gts_rs_grant_i), .intel_directphy_gts_0_o_src_rs_req_src_rs_req (gts_rc_rs_req_o), .intel_directphy_gts_0_o_tx_serial_data_o_tx_serial_data (gts_o_tx_serial_data), .intel_directphy_gts_0_o_tx_serial_data_n_o_tx_serial_data_n (gts_o_tx_serial_data_n), .intel_directphy_gts_0_i_rx_serial_data_i_rx_serial_data (gts_i_rx_serial_data), .intel_directphy_gts_0_i_rx_serial_data_n_i_rx_serial_data_n (gts_i_rx_serial_data_n), .intel_directphy_gts_0_o_tx_pll_locked_o_tx_pll_locked (gts_tx_pll_locked), .intel_directphy_gts_0_o_rx_is_lockedtodata_o_rx_is_lockedtodata (gts_rx_is_lockedtodata), .intel_directphy_gts_0_o_rx_is_lockedtoref_o_rx_is_lockedtoref (gts_rx_is_lockedtoref), .intel_directphy_gts_0_o_refclk2core_o_refclk2core (o_refclk2core), .intel_directphy_gts_0_i_tx_parallel_data_i_tx_parallel_data (gts_i_tx_parallel_data), .intel_directphy_gts_0_o_rx_parallel_data_o_rx_parallel_data (gts_o_rx_parallel_data), // reset sequencer signals .intel_srcss_gts_0_o_src_rs_grant_src_rs_grant (srcss_bank1_rs_grant_o), .intel_srcss_gts_0_i_src_rs_priority_src_rs_priority (srcss_bank1_rs_priority), .intel_srcss_gts_0_i_src_rs_req_src_rs_req (srcss_bank1_rc_rs_req), .intel_srcss_gts_0_o_pma_cu_clk_clk (srcss_bank1_pma_cu_clk_o), // system pll signals .intel_systemclk_gts_0_i_refclk_rdy_data (gts_systempll_refclk_rdy) ); // syncronise reset logic gts_tx_system_reset; altera_reset_synchronizer #( .ASYNC_RESET (1), .DEPTH (2) ) gts_tx_rst_sync ( .reset_in (~CPU_RESET_n), .clk (gts_tx_clkout), .reset_out (gts_tx_system_reset) ); // generate test data stream logic [7:0] counter; logic [7:0] test_stream; always_ff @(posedge gts_tx_clkout or posedge gts_tx_system_reset) begin if (gts_tx_system_reset) begin counter <= 8'b0; test_stream <= 8'b0; end else begin counter <= counter + 1; case (counter) 8'd0: test_stream <= 8'h3C; 8'd1: test_stream <= 8'h7F; 8'd2: test_stream <= 8'h11; 8'd3: test_stream <= 8'h07; default: test_stream <= 8'h00; endcase end end // detect and transform idle data, and mark control symbols logic [7:0] idle_data_transform; logic control_symbol_detect; always_comb begin idle_data_transform = (test_stream == 8'h00) ? 8'hBC : test_stream; control_symbol_detect = (idle_data_transform == 8'h1C) || (idle_data_transform == 8'h3C) || (idle_data_transform == 8'h5C) || (idle_data_transform == 8'h7C) || (idle_data_transform == 8'h9C) || (idle_data_transform == 8'hBC) || (idle_data_transform == 8'hDC) || (idle_data_transform == 8'hFC) || (idle_data_transform == 8'hF7) || (idle_data_transform == 8'hFB) || (idle_data_transform == 8'hFD) || (idle_data_transform == 8'hFE); end // pipline combinational logic to ensure timings are met logic [7:0] idle_data_transform_r; logic control_symbol_detect_r; always_ff @ (posedge gts_tx_clkout or posedge gts_tx_system_reset) begin if(gts_tx_system_reset) begin idle_data_transform_r <= 8'b0; control_symbol_detect_r <= 1'b0; end else begin idle_data_transform_r <= idle_data_transform; control_symbol_detect_r <= control_symbol_detect; end end // --- 8b/10b Encoding --- // https://libsv.readthedocs.io/en/latest/encoder_8b10b.html logic [9:0] encoded_out; logic code_error; encoder_tx encoder_inst ( .i_clk (gts_tx_clkout), .i_reset_n (~gts_tx_system_reset), .i_en (1'b1), .i_8b (idle_data_transform_r), .i_ctrl (control_symbol_detect_r), .o_10b (encoded_out), .o_code_err (code_error) ); // pipeline encoded outputs to ensure timing is met logic [9:0] encoded_out_r; always_ff @(posedge gts_tx_clkout or posedge gts_tx_system_reset) begin if (gts_tx_system_reset) encoded_out_r <= 10'b0; else encoded_out_r <= encoded_out; end // send data over TX logic data_path_rdy_tx; always_ff @(posedge gts_tx_clkout or posedge gts_tx_system_reset) begin if (gts_tx_system_reset) begin gts_i_tx_parallel_data <= 80'b0; data_path_rdy_tx <= 0; end else begin data_path_rdy_tx <= gts_tx_ready && gts_tx_pll_locked; case (data_path_rdy_tx) 1: gts_i_tx_parallel_data <= {1'b1, 39'b0, 1'b0, 1'b1, 28'b0, encoded_out_r}; 0: gts_i_tx_parallel_data <= 80'b0; endcase end end endmodule This RTL passes timing standalone, but when signal tap is used, it does produce warnings. In SignalTap I take the following measurments: Instance TX: data: gts_i_tx_parallel_data[79:0] clock domain: gts_tx_clkout Instance RX: data: gts_i_rx_parallel_data[79:0] clock domain: gts_rx_clkout The issue I am seeing is intermitted failures upon bitstream-re-configure: On the TX side, after the encoder has encoded, the TX data reads as folowed: (EXPECTED): ... 283, 17C, 283, 17C, 183, 335, 0B1, 347, 283, 17C, 283, 17C, ... This is the expected pattern on the RX side (post-framing) However, in my experiments so far, I have found that it only sometimes works: Here are the framing results after 5 different re-flashes: (FAILURE): ... 283, 17C, 283, 17C, 383, 135, 0B1, 347, 083, 37C, 283, 17C, ... (FAILURE): ... 283, 17C, 283, 17C, 383, 135, 0B1, 347, 083, 37C, 283, 17C, ... (FAILURE): ... 283, 17C, 283, 17D, 183, 335, 0B1, 346, 283, 17C, 283, 17C, ... (SUCCESS): ... 283, 17C, 283, 17C, 183, 335, 0B1, 347, 283, 17C, 283, 17C, ... (FAILURE): ... 283, 17C, 283, 175, 1B1, 307, 083, 37C, 283, 17C, 283, 17C, ... If anyone has any idea of what else to try, it would be much appreciated!
Arria 10 SoC Dev Kit Baremetal HPS examples issue & workflow
Hi, I recently acquired an Arria 10 SoC dev kit but I'm really struggling to run either the examples on embedded-software/bare-metal or the ones included in SoC EDS pro 20.1, trying to follow the instructions for both of them, they seem to rely on a old version of SoC EDS which included within ARM DS-5 and the toolchain, but now SoC EDS & ARM DS are separated and I cannot build the examples. With the new applications the flow for using this examples should remain the same? I mean: use Pogrammer to program the included .sof inside ghrd (or generate a updated one) -> open ARM-DS from SoC-EDS with environmental variables assigned and build with new toolchain arm-none-eabi -> run from ARM-DS (can i without license?) Seems like most of the tools used for running this examples have been discontinued (for example ) so at this point I don't know which workflow should I actually follow. PD: finally I was able to generate de application.axf from this example Altera-SoCFPGA-HardwareLib-16550-CV-GNU with an old toolchain but I don't know how to program it without a license, for now I don't want to debug anything, just do some simple tests printing by uart
[Agilex 7F] How to setup my EMIF IPs for the toolkit?
Hi, I've been trying to reconfigure my existing EMIF IPs to make them reachable from the EMIF toolkit and be able to generate some eye diagrams. The topology I have : 2x EMIF calib IPs 7x EMIF IPs One calib IP is connected to 3 EMIFs and the other to the 4 remaining. For the calib IPs, I selected "Add EMIF Debug Interface". For the EMIFs I did not do anything since "Note: Calibration Debug Options are set from EMIF Calibration IP which applies to all EMIFs connected to an I/O row". When opening the system console, I can see the instances in the System Explorer tab, but not in the Toolkit Explorer (I loaded the sof file). Am I doing something wrong? Note that I DO NOT want to start again from an example design, or let me know if it won't change anything for me in terms of settings, behavior, ... Also, if there's a way to generate the eye diagram "by hand" from the exported cal_debug port, I am more than interested. If there's any other way to automate the process of generating the eye diagrams, I would also be interested! Thanks!How to reduce ROM/RAM requirements for a NIOSV Compact CPU Platform?
Hello ALTERA NIOSV Experts, I am trying to create a system in Quartus Platform Designer which has the following components: A 1G Tri mode ethernet IP (with 32 bit AVALON-ST TX/RX interfaces using minimum sized FIFOs) A RS 232 UART with no FIFO A couple of small FIFOs using AVALON-ST interfaces for data in and out of Platform via Conduits A NIOSV Compact CPU A JTAG UART ROM for NIOSV RAM for NIOSV My questions are about how to reduce the ROM (for the NIOSV compacts program) and RAM to the minimum amount. I am trying to shoehorn this all into a MAX10 FPGA ( Altera Max 10 part number 10M08SAU169I7G). When i build the BSP for this platform, with a "Hello World" program, it seems to need around 128 Bytes of ROM and several KBytes of RAM. Why is the program so large ? I expect it has to do with the BSP adding in drivers for all the Platform IP and it is getting bloated. What tactics are available for me to use in the Ashling RISC FREE IDE which i am using to create my BSP and/or Platform Designer to reduce the program size ? The FPGA i am trying to use only has around 48 K Bytes of RAM available in total ...so maybe this is not possible and i need a bigger FPGA of course ! Thanks for your help, Dr BarryHow-to generate dual-port (read/write) RAM with clock enables
Following Stratix® 10 Embedded Memory User Guide (2025.07.24) chapter 2.11.6 independent clock enables are supported for read/write clock mode input/output clock mode I start a "RAM 2-port" IP generation. I select "one read/write port" in the general tab and "dual clock use separate read and write clock" in the "Clks/Rd,Byte En" tab. Now I enable the clock enables in the "Reg/Clkens/Aclrs" tab "use clock for read input register" as well as same for "output registers". IP Parameter window immediuately shows an error: Error: testram.ram_2port_0: Clock enable for read input registers is unavailable while using 'Dual clock: use separate read and write clocks' for Stratix 10 device family. This is verified with Quartus Pro 18.1 and 25.3. Is this a bug of the software or the documentation?
About old Stratix II GX EP2SGX90 Transceiver Signal Integrity Development Board...
I can see that the old version of Quartus has come back, so I will give it a chance. Could Altera offical upload the "SIIGX_SI_Kit-v1.0.1.exe" file again for "Stratix II GX EP2SGX90 Transceiver Signal Integrity Development Board"? Any help would be appreciated.EPM9320LI84-20
Hello! Could you please clarify something? Within the same batch of EPM9320LI84-20 FPGAs, the marking quality varies significantly, which is especially noticeable in the letter A in the ALTERA logo. This is not an isolated case within the batch—there are several chips with the same issue. Could this happen during manufacturing? As you understand, these chips were discontinued long ago and are no longer available from official distributors, so we have to source them from less reliable suppliers. Please respond as soon as possible. Thank you!
