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AEsqu
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7 years ago

REMOVE_REDUNDANT_LOGIC_CELLS is important, take care.

Hi,

Pay attention to leave the REMOVE_REDUNDANT_LOGIC_CELLS option to ON if you are using a reconfig pll [at least in stratix 3 FPGA].

Turning the option OFF makes 3 redundant cells not removed and the PLL fails to produce aproper clock after reconfiguration.

File is altpll_reconfig_quartus.vhd,

SIGNAL cuda_combout_wire : STD_LOGIC_VECTOR (3 DOWNTO 0);

--Quartus VERSION 13.1

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  • KennyT_altera's avatar
    KennyT_altera
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    Hi,

    Can you circle out the different base on your screenshot?

    I will try it on Q18.1 to see if the problem still exist.

    Thanks,

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    AEsqu
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    Hi,

    Please see the diff in the new attachment.

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    AEsqu
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    Please note that timings are meet for setup and hold in both scenario's,

    so this is not timing related (slack of +0.3 ns).

    If you need the qar to reproduce it, let me know (give me your personal placeholder as I cannot give it on the forum).

    Please note that I will stick to v13.1 (last supported version for the stratix III fpga).

  • KennyT_altera's avatar
    KennyT_altera
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    Hi,

    I had send you a separate mail for the qar. you may check your inbox

    Thanks,

    Best regards,​

  • AEsqu's avatar
    AEsqu
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    So, what is the outcome KTan9?

    Is the issue still present?

  • KennyT_altera's avatar
    KennyT_altera
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    Hi,

    Given that this bugs is in the older version of Quartus Prime, this bug/issue is currently in the lower priority list for Intel to fix. We apologize for any inconvenience.

    Thanks

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    I removed manually in the RTL code the lines cuda_combout_wire as sometime quartus was still not removing them for some reason.

    Now it works fine.

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    I'm re-using this code again and faced the same issue (of course),

    but as I wanted to use that option globally to preserve the netlist from Synplify and preserve my clock nets name point,

    I'm now using this in the .qsf:

    #No global optimization
    set_global_assignment -name REMOVE_REDUNDANT_LOGIC_CELLS OFF
    #But this is required otherwise the variable PLL clock is not working
    set_instance_assignment -name REMOVE_REDUNDANT_LOGIC_CELLS ON -to "adjustable_pll:adjustable_pll_inst"