FIR II Decimation Frequency Response

Hi,

As I understand it, you have some inquiries related to the FIR. Thanks for sharing the screenshot and design files. Please allow me some time to further look into it and get back to you. Thank you.

Hi,

Sorry for the delay. Please allow me few more days to investigate on this and get back to you. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Hi,

Sorry for the delay. As I understand it, you are observing different in the FIR IP frequency response vs the plot that you obtained from the simulation. You are expecting some plot with cutoff at 3.2MHz but from your plot, you are observing cutoff ~25MHz.

1. Mind share with me the detailed step to replicate your plots ie at both Matlab and Modelsim? This would be helpful for further debugging and to engage Factory if required.

2. Would you mind to share with me what are the changes to the default IP generated files if there is any?

3. Have you had a chance to cross check with Matlab FIR to serve as a golden reference?

Please let me know if there is any concern. Thank you.

Hello @CheePin_C_Intel

Thank you for response. I will respond to each of your items. Refer to the zip file attached earlier.

1. Detailed steps
   1. From Matlab/Octave, set the directory to /decim_fir_sim and run the file fir_inspect. This will generate file decim_fir_input.txt.
   2. From ModelSim, set the directory to /decim_fir_sim. Enter command "do decim_fir_msim.tcl". This tcl script is provided with the IP, so you don't need to change anything. The IP testbench is already set to look for "decim_fir_input.txt" so it all just works. The sim automatically generates file "decim_fir_output.txt".
   3. From Matlab/Octave, run the same script again fir_inspect.m. This will read decim_fir_output.txt and make the plot.
2. There are no changes to the default IP generated files.
3. The Matlab script provided with the IP, decim_fir_model.m, generates the same output as the simulation. Beyond that, there's no use to using Matlab because it all depends what the data rate is. For example, grab coef_matrix_in from file decim_fir_mlab.m, and then run freqz(coef_matrix_in). This plots the expected frequency response, but the x axis is "normalized frequency". How does that map to what the IP is doing? That's the whole question.

Hi,

Thanks for your help. By the way, as I run the fir_inspect.m in the Matlab 2018b, I encountered the following error:

Error: File: fir_inspect.m Line: 5 Column: 15

Invalid use of operator.

Not sure if I miss out anything.

Hi,

Thanks for sharing the new file. For your information, I still get into error in Matlab with the file which I believe is related to the +=, .*, /= operators in the file. I did a search in web and seems like these operators are not supported. Would you mind to help changing to the Matlab compatible operators? Thank you.

Hi,

Thanks for your help. Sorry for the inconvenience. I still get into the following error:

Error using .*

Matrix dimensions must agree.

Error in fir_inspect (line 5)

sinevector=(2^(inBits-1)-1)*sin(2*pi*clock.*freqsMhz'/smpRateMhz);

It seems like the clock dimension mismatches with freqsMhz. Also, I have tested manually change the clock to 1x65, it will prompt another error on " '/ " operator. I changed to " ./ " the file can run but the simulation output is a waveform like plot which I believe due to incorrect changes from my side.

Note that I have not run the Modelsim but just testing on the .m file since there is a decim_fir_output.txt available in your folder.

Please let me know if there is any concern. Thank you.

Hi,

Thanks for your help. Sorry for the inconvenience. I still get into the matrix dimension mismatch problem with your latest file. I am not sure why there are a number of compatibility problems arise. To facilitate replication, just would like to check with you which specific Matlab version that you are testing with your fir_inspect.m? I will try to search for the closest version to see if it works. Thank you very much.

Hi,

thanks for your update. I am using R2020a. Let me try to see if I can find the 2021a version. Thank you.

Hi,

Thanks for your help. As I run your latest fir_inspect.m in R2021a, it is passing. However, I come across different observation with yours. As shown in the following screenshot, the left one is I run with your original decim_fir2.zip + latest fir_inspect.m in R2021a only. If I fir_inspect.m in R2021a -> run Modelsim to get new decim_fir_output.txt -> rerun fir_inspect.m in R2021a, I get the right hand side plot. Not sure if I have missed out anything? Thank you.