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Issue with Cyclone 10 LP PLL
Hi there,
I am working in a bring-up of a board that contains a Cyclone 10 LP FPGA.
I am trying to use the 2x PLLs that the FPGA contains.
I have generated from the 100MHz input clock, 2x 200KHz using ALTPLL IP.
But, I see that the "locked" out signal goes from "1" to "0" after programming the sof and that the output frequency us around 170KHz instead of the 200KHz.
I have tried different compesation modes and made tests with different frequencies, but I always get the same behavior, "locked" signal does not get stable in "1" and the PLL output frequency is always below the target (i.e. 15MHz I get 12MHz, 5MHz I get 4Mhz, ...)
I am unsure if it's IP config problem or something else, like HW isuse.
A small capture of the IP:
How can I proceed?
Thanks
8 Replies
- imuguruza
New Contributor
I can confirm that the input clokc is working fine, as I have used it to toggle LEDs using a counter module.
I am wondering if it is mandatory to have an isolated analog reference plane in the PCB as stated in doc an958:
In my design, we only have a ferrite to isolate VCC_PLL but we have not created an isolated GNDA, it is tied to digital ground.
- FvM
Super Contributor
Hope you have also bypass capacitors next to VCC_PLL and other supply pins.
Power integrity is hardly a problem unless your PCB has many fast switching outputs.
- imuguruza
New Contributor
Well, the board has VCC_PLL decoupling caps, but is also missing a ferrite bead for VCCA feeding voltage.
- AqidAyman_Altera
Regular Contributor
May I know if you confirm the 100MHz input clock is stable through waveform measurement? Another thing to highlight here is the power supply for analog, VCCA. Does it confirm supplying the stable power? The VCC must rise monotonically.
Refer to the datasheet for the VCCA recommended operating condition:
Regards,
Aqid
- imuguruza
New Contributor
It looks to be a hw, the "GNDA" pins are missing GND connection
- AqidAyman_Altera
Regular Contributor
Okay noted. Has the issue been resolved after you are connecting the GNDA pins to GND?
- imuguruza
New Contributor
Yes, issue solved
- AqidAyman_Altera
Regular Contributor
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