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HGAEN
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6 years ago
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Inconsistencies in FFT IP Core and Matlab FFT Output

I'm attempting to simulate a fixed point variable streaming FFT IP core in Matlab, and compare its output to the output of the built-in Matlab fft. The core produces transforms that are similar to the output from Matlab, but the peaks for test signals tend to show up at different frequencies, and the error varies depending on the input frequency. Is this to be expected, or have I missed something?

The following is my Matlab script:

%set up input parameters

DATA_WIDTH = 1024;

SAMP_RATE = 100;

INVERSE = 0;

%input parameters

AMPLITUDE = 127;

FREQ = 30;

%define time

time = (0:1/SAMP_RATE:(DATA_WIDTH/SAMP_RATE));

%create input signal

data_in = (AMPLITUDE*sin(2*pi*FREQ*time));

%take the fft of the input with MATLAB's function

matlabfft = fft(data_in);

%use the IP core to take the FFT. Undo the digit reverse

alterafft = fft_ii_0_example_design_model(data_in,DATA_WIDTH,INVERSE);

alterafft = alterafft(digit_reverse(0:(1024-1), log2(1024)) + 1);

Thank you!

  • CheepinC_altera's avatar
    CheepinC_altera
    6 years ago

    Hi,

    Sorry for the delay. I have been performing some tests in Matlab on this. For your information, based on my understanding, Matlab FFT seems to be working with Natural data type only. I have generated a FFT instance with configuration similar to yours but set the Input Order = Natural instead of Digit Reverse. This is to further isolate the part of undoing digit reverse.

    As I simulated the Matlab model using your fft_test.m, it seems like I am able to get similar peak frequency between Matlab FFT and CV FFT. I have sent the simulation zip and the screenshot to you through the Forum email for your reference.

    Note that I am using CV FFT in Q17.0Std and Matlab R2015a since I only have these available in my PC.

    Please let me know if there is any concern. Thank you.

    Best regards,

    Chee Pin

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  • CheepinC_altera's avatar
    CheepinC_altera
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    6 years ago

    Hi,

    As I understand it, you seems to observe discrepancy between the FFT IP core vs Matlab built-in FFT in Matlab simulation. To ensure we are on the same page, just would like to check with you on the following:

    1. What is the FPGA device, Quartus version and Matlab version that you are using?
    2. Please share with me the FFT .ip file so that I can have better understanding of your configuration.
    3. Would you mind to further elaborate on the discrepancy observation when you refer to the peak? Some screenshot or illustration will be helpful.
    4. Would you mind to further elaborate on the detailed steps to generate the FFT IP core model for Matlab simulation? I would like to perform observation replication on my side.
    5. Just would like to check with you if you have had a chance to try with Modelsim simulation to see if similar discrepancy observed? This is to narrow down if it is model related issue.

    Please let me know if there is any concern. Thank you.

    • HGAEN's avatar
      HGAEN
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      6 years ago

      Hello!

      My apologies for the missing information. I am using Quartus Prime Version 18.1.0 Build 625 09/12/2018 SJ Lite Edition, Matlab version 9.7.0.1190202 (R2019b), and I am targeting A Cyclone V 5CSEBA6U23I7DK. I have attached a .zip with all of the IP files (including the .qip) inside.

      When I run the Matlab script, I see the following:

      The actual frequency should be 15.2 (from my test script).

      In order to generate the FFT IP core, in my Quartus Project, I open the IP catalog, search for "FFT" and double click it. I give the core a name (test_fft_ip.qsys in this case), and set the parameters to the following:

      Then I click "Generate Example Design", select the default directory and click "OK".

      I have not yet tried simulating with Modelsim, I will do that now.

      Thank you so much!

  • CheepinC_altera's avatar
    CheepinC_altera
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    6 years ago

    Hi,

    Thanks for your update. I will further look into them and provide you an update on the progress by early next week or as soon as there is any valid finding. Thank you very much.

  • CheepinC_altera's avatar
    CheepinC_altera
    Icon for Regular Contributor rankRegular Contributor
    6 years ago

    Hi,

    Sorry for the delay. I have been performing some tests in Matlab on this. For your information, based on my understanding, Matlab FFT seems to be working with Natural data type only. I have generated a FFT instance with configuration similar to yours but set the Input Order = Natural instead of Digit Reverse. This is to further isolate the part of undoing digit reverse.

    As I simulated the Matlab model using your fft_test.m, it seems like I am able to get similar peak frequency between Matlab FFT and CV FFT. I have sent the simulation zip and the screenshot to you through the Forum email for your reference.

    Note that I am using CV FFT in Q17.0Std and Matlab R2015a since I only have these available in my PC.

    Please let me know if there is any concern. Thank you.

    Best regards,

    Chee Pin