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hsyn
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2 years ago

troubleshoot for 5CSEBA4U23I7N (cyclone V fpga processor)

Hello,

I am trying to troubleshoot a pcb with a 5CSEBA4U23I7N cyclone V fpga processor.

The resistance value I measured between 3V3 and GND for the intact pcb is around 380ohm.

One of the PCBs is drawing more current than normal. When I measure the resistance between 3V3 and GND, it is about 141 ohms.


Then I removed the fpga from the pcb and continued the tests in this way.

I measured the short circuit status of all the pins I used as 3V3 supply in the fpga. Accordingly, the resistance values of some pins are as follows:

FPGA PIN 1FPGA PIN 2Value (OHM)
C1 (GND)AG4 (3V3)212 OHM
C1 (GND)AE10 (3V3)212 OHM
C1 (GND)AE13 (3V3)212 OHM
C1 (GND)AA12 (3V3)212 OHM
C1 (GND)V11 (DATA)215 OHM

According to these values, is the resistance value I measured between the VCC pin of the fpga and the GND pin normal?

If there is a malfunction, what could be the cause? Or how should I proceed?


Note

Below are the measurement results I made with the fpga I removed from a different pcb. Similar results were obtained here.

FPGA PIN 1 (GND)FPGA PIN 2 (3V3)Value (OHM)
C1AG4291 OHM
C1AE10291 OHM
C1AE13291 OHM
C1AA12291 OHM
C1V11291 OHM
C1AA14328 OHM
C1AD13328 OHM
C1AD9328 OHM
C1AD16328 OHM
C1AD18328 OHM
C1AD21328 OHM

8 Replies

  • cfkd's avatar
    cfkd
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    Hi,


    Thank you for your question.

    Kindly expect some time to hear back from our engineering team about the requested information.


    Best regards,

    Chee


  • cfkd's avatar
    cfkd
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    Hi,


    Vcc to GND is not a resistor; therefore, it does not follow Ohm's law where the resistance is a constant when varying the voltage/current. We do not spec the resistance in our datasheet nor measure it during production test. Kindly let us know if this answered your question.


    Best regards,

    Chee



  • FvM's avatar
    FvM
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    You are apparently troubleshouting a problem related ton bank 3B and pin V11 but don't tell what it is.

    Depending on the kind of problem, there can be different ways to narrow it down. Resistance measurement with multimeter usually isn't.

  • hsyn's avatar
    hsyn
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    I removed the FPGA from the PCB.

    I'm guessing some FPGA pins are broken.

    How can I test to detect these?

    Is there any document I can reference?

    • hsyn's avatar
      hsyn
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      Since the FPGA is not attached to the PCB, I can not power it and test it.

      How can I check the status of I/O pins with a multimeter?

      Or with a different method.

  • cfkd's avatar
    cfkd
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    Hi,


    Thank you for your question.


    As the device is not mounted, you cannot test with some logic.

    Any tampering with the device not as per the recommendation can void the warranty.

    If you would like to test without the power, you will be required to send for RMA process by contacting local Sales for filing IPS case to start RMA.


    Best regards,

    Chee


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    cfkd
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