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Hi mfbm,
"Does this mean the pins will not be able to accept data changing at a rate faster than 200 MHz or will it be possible to have something like a fHSCLK of 200 MHz (which would mean double device operation in Mbps) as we can see in Table 24 (example for RSDS Transmitter) on the datasheet?"
- In practice, exceeding 200 MHz with standard I/O (LVCMOS) is generally not supported or reliable due to buffer slew rates, timing constraints, and signal integrity limitations
"Are there any special pins on the FPGA which we can use to achieve maximum potential on this interface? Or any strategies like using IDDR/ODDR modules that could help?"
- Use the fastest I/O standard that your board design supports (e.g., 1.8V LVCMOS for faster edge rates, though still limited to ~200 MHz).
- Utilize IDDR/ODDR for double data rate operation, but the clock frequency cannot exceed the I/O's rated frequency (200 MHz), and setup/hold timing becomes more challenging at higher rates.
- Minimize PCB trace lengths, use controlled impedance and proper termination for optimal signal integrity.
- Synchronize the QSPI clock to the FPGA's internal clock domain to avoid metastability.
- Consider using parallel I/O banks for a wider data bus if higher throughput is needed.
Regards,
Adzim
- mfbm15 days ago
New Contributor
Thank you very much for your answer and your suggestions. I see the general proposal is to use 1,8V LVCMOS standard on the pins. How much does it penalize using 3V3 LVCMOS standard vs. 1,8V in terms of achiveable frequency?
- AdzimZM_Altera13 days ago
Regular Contributor
Hi mfbm ,
"How much does it penalize using 3V3 LVCMOS standard vs. 1,8V in terms of achiveable frequency?"
- Lower voltage I/O standards (e.g., 1.8V LVCMOS) support higher switching frequencies than higher voltage standards (e.g., 3.3V LVCMOS).
- This is due to faster rise and fall times and reduced capacitive charging time at lower voltages.
Regards,
Adzim
- mfbm9 days ago
New Contributor
Thank you for the answer.
But I still don't understand the benefit of using 1,8V LVCMOS if, according to the datasheet, the maximum Altera is guaranteeing is 200 MHz for both standards: "I/Os using general-purpose I/O standards such as 3.3-, 3.0-, 2.5-, 1.8-, or 1.5-LVTTL/LVCMOS are capable of a typical 200 MHz interfacing frequency with a 10 pF load." Maybe 1,8V standard would support higher frequencies but if this is still not guaranteed by the manufacturer, the limit is still 200 MHz.
Regards,
Mabel