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Inoue_PTX
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1 year ago

Power supplies don't rise monotonically

In ACEX 1K and Cyclone, the power supply don't rise not monotonically.
The waveforms is shown below.


Is the 3.3V in Cyclone "monotonically"?
Also, the 2.5V in ACEX 1K has a slope that is always positive, is this "monotonically"?

Finally, what is expected to happen when power is supplied with these waveforms?

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  • Farabi's avatar
    Farabi
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    Hello,


    Just want to know if this setup can make the FPGA successfully configured and enter user mode?


    regards,

    Farabi


  • Inoue_PTX's avatar
    Inoue_PTX
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    Hello Farabi

    Thank you for replying.

    If this non-monotonicity, can intel guarantee that the FPGA work correctly?

    If not, what kind of defects can be expected? (ex; I/O pins output incorrectly, possible corruption ect)

    Best regards,

    Inoue

  • FvM's avatar
    FvM
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    Hi,
    i'd refer to datasheets. ACEX datasheet e.g. specifies "Maximum VCC rise time is 100 ms, and VCC must rise monotonically" for VCCINT and VCCIO.

    In other words, the device is not guaranteed to work correctly if you violate this condition. I won't expect damage, but configuration might fail.

    As the shown VCCINT and VCCIO waveforms are nearly montonical, I won't expect failure. But it's obviously bad 5V regulator design that should be fixed.

    Out of curiosity, are you newly designing with 20 years old ACEX1K and Cyclone or just servicing old instruments?

    Regards
    Frank

  • Ash_R_Intel's avatar
    Ash_R_Intel
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    Hi,

    As the query has been answered by members, I am setting the ticket to closure. However, it will be open for communication for community members.


    Regards