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MFric2
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7 years ago

Parallel Flash Loader (PFL) .rbf Support

Hello,

in the PFL User guide on page 8 it means:

"The PFL IP core does not support Raw Binary File (.rbf) format."

However on Page 38 under Third-party Programmer Support it tells me to convert a .POF file to .hexout and then .rbf to Program the Flash with Third-party tools...

  1. Does the PFL is able to configure the FPGA with .rbf file saved on FLASH with Third-Party programmer and if so do i still need to write the Option Bits to the Flash device ?

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  • MFric2's avatar
    MFric2
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    7 years ago

    Really ? No one at Intel has a quick answer to this ? :(

  • ShafiqY_Intel's avatar
    ShafiqY_Intel
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    7 years ago

    Hi MFric2,

    I'm apologize for late reply regarding to this issue. I'm out of office last 4days.

    Yes, PFL is able to configure the FPGA with .rbf file if only you convert POF to rbf. (not SOF to rbf). You no need to write extra Option Bits to the flash device (in rbf file already include Option Bits (in binary form) )

    In addition, you may refer to the following KDB link for more information if you want to program using 3rd party programmer.

    https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/programmable/support/support-resources/knowledge-base/solutions/rd08082012_952.html

    I hope this will help you.

    Thanks

    • Knug's avatar
      Knug
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      5 years ago

      Hi @ShafiqY_Intel

      How can we convert the POF to rbf?

      The link suggests :

      1) converting .pof to .hexout

      2) Then convert .hexout to .rbf using nios2_elf_objcopy command on the NIOS II command shell

      --

      1) I found the way to convert from .pof to .hexout on the quartus command window because above quartus_cpf command was not recognised :

      Invoke Quartus. Load the project
      cd into the directory where the .pof file is
      Then execute the following in the command window :
      execute_module -tool cpf -args "-c *.pof *.hexout"

      I am not using the NIOS II processor just a CPLD with the PFL instantiated within it and an FPGA Cyclone V (no NIOS II processor is used within the FPGA)

      Where can I execute the 2nd nios2_elf_objcopy command:

      nios2-elf-objcopy –I ihex –O binary <input file>.hexout <output file>.rbf

      Do I need a special NIOS II command shell? If yes, how do I get this ?

      => Looks like I need to get the NIOS II command shell up to be able to type above NIOS II command.

      I have the following directory:

      C:\intelFPGA_lite\20.1.0\nios2eds

      Inside it contains:

      • NIOS II Command Shell.bat
      • nios2_command_shell.sh (Is this the Unix version?)
      • version.ptf

      Need the windows command shell version.

      Clicked on the "NIOS II Command Shell.bat" executable but window opens and closes instantly. I also tried to give administrator right permission but see same behaviour (ie Command Shell prompt window instantly closes after it is opened)

      Need assistance here please..

      Regards,

      Kevin

      • Knug's avatar
        Knug
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        5 years ago

        Hi @ShafiqY_Intel

        Can we use the .hexout of the application image and pass it though I2C in byte format via FPGA (Middle man, just straight through to the CPLD which contains the PFL (data/address) instead of the .rbf because having issues trying to create the .rbf from .hexout (as already reported unless you can assist here).

        So does the PFL support also .hexout to be able to program the flash and then configure the FPGA?

        If yes, how could we decode the .hexout format ?

        --

        The .rbf has raw binary data that can be sent in chunks of bytes starting with the data of the option bits followed by the data of the corresponding page we are trying to send. Isn't this the case?

        We are using x16 FPP mode so raw data (.rbf) could be decoded as :

        eg Word 0 "1B 02"

        LSB: Byte0 = 02, MSB: Byte1 = 1B

        Can put 0000 0010 0001 1011 (2 bytes) to 0x0000 0000 address

        etc

        ---

        Q / How is the .hexout been formatted ? This is not raw data as the .rbf is. Isn't it ?

        --

        If the .hexout format is not convenient to use, what other formats we can use that we are able to decode ok before sending to the PFL address/data lines? .bin perhaps ? if yes, how will this be formatted to our needs? (ie this is the same question asked with the .hexout)

        Kind regards,

        Kevin