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Regular ContributorWell, if you search the Intel/Altera PDN notices they do provide exact guidance on the upcoming EOL of a product.
Typically they provide 3-6 months of remaining last time buy window, and 6-9 months to last time product shipment.
As to providing much longer term (ie, 7 years) of guaranteed production that comes with responsibility on both sides.
As a customer, you must provide contracted (guaranteed) orders and acceptance of shipped product.
You can't decide 3 years in to cancel all your orders. So there is a huge risk on your part.
In return, Intel/Altera will continue to produce certain parts under contract even when they are no longer cost effective.
No significant customers today will look at design in of EPM7064 devices for new product, even tho for a small customer it might make sense.
And like it or not (I've always worked for very large consumers of semiconductor parts, especially Intel/Altera) and because we bought hundreds of millions of dollars per year of devices we can el primo treatment. Support, access to new devices, technology road maps, advance notice of product family changes. That is just the way it works. Small guys that buy thru distributors don't get this info.
You may not like that, but that is how it works.
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@ak6dn ha scritto:
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And like it or not (I've always worked for very large consumers of semiconductor parts, especially Intel/Altera) and because we bought hundreds of millions of dollars per year of devices we can el primo treatment. Support, access to new devices, technology road maps, advance notice of product family changes. That is just the way it works. Small guys that buy thru distributors don't get this info.
I can also understand this, but my distributor will have to know in advance I think.
Instead my distributor had several hundreds / thousands of pieces of various types of MAX10 in order and with specific arrival dates. Of some models he had indicated that the delivery would be very late.
But none of them had an end-of-life indication or advice not to use it in new projects.
From one moment to the next, these devices disappear completely and nothing is known. So the problem is not with myself that I can buy a few tens of FPGAs a year, but with my distributor who has bought tens of thousands in the past. Is all this normal?
It would have been enough to say "we do not know when we will be able to produce it" or "we will never produce it again". This would have been crucial information.
You may not like that, but that is how it works.
I don't like it and I'm not the only one who doesn't like it.
I've seen several other posts here of people complaining about the same thing.
If that's how it works, that's okay, we acknowledge that it's not a serious way to work.
