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11 years ago

DDR3 HMC operation rate

Hi,

I am confused about the DDR3 HMC operation rate of Cyclone V.

The handbook says that "full rate designs might have difficulty in closing timing. Consequently,for high frequency memory interface designs, Altera recommends that you use half-rate or quarter-rate

UniPHY IP and controllers." and "For this reason, Altera High-Performance Controller II and UniPHY

IPs do not support full rate designs using the DDR3 SDRAM interface. However, the DDR3 hard controller

in Arria® V devices supports only full rate."

Since altera don't recommend to use full rate,why Cyclone V or Arria V device can only operation at full data rate (HMC)?

and may the HMC have problem in closing timing ? do users take risks when use this device? how to solve this problem?

looking forward your reply.

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    11 years ago

    I also noticed these words. Does it mean high risk to use HMC in Cyclone V? Is there any solution to this? Thanks.

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    11 years ago

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    I also noticed these words. Does it mean high risk to use HMC in Cyclone V? Is there any solution to this? Thanks.

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    It is low risk to use HMC in Cyclone V.

    The solution is to not operate the MPFE ports using the afi_clk. Instead, use a slower clock (perhaps afi_half_clk, or any other clock in your system).