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10 years ago

Cyclone V and Gate Level Simulation

Quartus won't run a gate level simulation when using the Cyclone V family.

Is it possible to run gate level simulation with the Cyclone V devices?

For other devices, Quartus generates simulation files:

up_counter.vo

up_counter_6_1200mv_0c_slow.vo

up_counter_6_1200mv_85c_slow.vo

up_counter_min_1200mv_0c_fast.vo

But with the Cyclone V family it is only generating:

up_counter.vo

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    Static timing analysis alone does not allow for comprehensive verification. Among the issues

    - STA cannot identify asynchronous interfaces

    - The error prone selection of false paths

    - Constraint requirements for multi-cycle paths

    - Common concurrence point along implementation flow to a known good test bench is lost.
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    Cyclone V = no gate level simulation

    Rely on TimeQuest

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    Thanks.

    Is there a reason that gate level is not supported?
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    --- Quote Start ---

    Cyclone V = no gate level simulation

    Rely on TimeQuest

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    Good info sharing. Dint aware of it till now.
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    Reason is money, models for gate level simulation are $$$ and 28nm design is already $$$

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    I'd bet that Altera decided that Timequest was more accurate than gate level simulation so there was no reason to support both methods.