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8 years ago

Would you recommend "new" Cyclone 10 GX now for a new design??

Hi,

I have seen that Cyclone 10GX are being available. As they are comparable to the smallest & low grade A10GX, but for a much lower cost, they can be very interesting I think.

pro:

- Low price

- Some parts are stocked (36 pieces of 10cx220yf780i6g (https://www.buyaltera.com/partdetail?partid=7593617) and 10cx220yf780e6g (https://www.buyaltera.com/partdetail?partid=7595044))

- 1 dev kit available

cons:

- Less documentation than older FPGA (compare to A10GX for example)

- Almost no entry on Altera forum (+1 now :-) ) and only 1 on Altera wiki

- Only 1 dev kit with only the schematic pdf available. No Quartus ref design to prove tools/chips are working and have been tested (golden top, transceiver, BTS, …).

- Q17.1pro (no licence) is crashing a lot and compiling a former Q17.0standard A10GX project does not work (all ip re-created manually in Q17.1pro).

Analysis&Synthesis is stuck at 4%, then PC RAM grows till the max 32GB available and then SW ends.

But Altera wiki "simple" example compiles.

As I need several demanding features regarding tools (configuration, pinout and timing analysis), I am afraid that it is too soon to use cyclone 10GX.

- Several 12.5Gbps RX/TX

- >80LVDS inputs (serialize x10, ~1gbps)

- Remote update

what do you think? do you already design boards with c10gx?

Thanks for feedbacks.

links:

Dev kit:

https://www.altera.com/products/boards_and_kits/dev-kits/altera/cyclone-10-gx-development-kit.html?utm_source=altera&utm_medium=homepage_ad&utm_campaign=cyclone+10&utm_content=na_gxkit

Altera wiki project:

http://www.alterawiki.com/wiki/file:c10userconfigurabletransceiverdemodesign.zip

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    Altera_Forum
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    I'm no expert, but I'm going to wait until there are more parts available, more dev kits, more ref designs, etc. before I launch into a C10GX design.

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    Altera_Forum
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    Thanks for you answer !

    I have the same reasoning but I was hopping to get an opposite one^^