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Mircea
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5 years ago

Quartus 19.2 back-annotation

Hello,

I have a question about the Stratix10Mx, HBM example design, that I generate with Quarts 19.2.

I compile the Quarts generated project, and it compiles OK.

Device is: 1SM21BHN3F53E3VG.

After compilation, if I do a back-annotate device and pins, Quartus will crash.

On the same project, but without the HBM part instantiated, Quartus will back-annotate fine.

After I instantiate the HBM part, the project will compile, but will crash during back-annotation.

It's true that I need to back-annotate only once, but is this something we should worry about?

I can provide the projects, if needed.

Thank you very much,

Best regards,

Mircea

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  • KennyT_altera's avatar
    KennyT_altera
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    5 years ago

    Theoretically, it should not crash.


    Can you use the latest release of Quartus Prime Pro 20.2?


    If you were still seeing the crash, you will need to send us the design.qar file for duplication and the fix.


    • Mircea's avatar
      Mircea
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      5 years ago

      Hi Kenny,

      Attached is the design.qar.

      Please, try to back-annotate it and see what it does.

      Is this a known issue with Quartus?

      Can there be more stuff that's wrong?

      Thanks,

      Mircea

  • KennyT_altera's avatar
    KennyT_altera
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    5 years ago

    Can you post the crash message here? I will test your design in the latest release version to see if it had been fixed?


    • Mircea's avatar
      Mircea
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      5 years ago

      Hi Kenny,

      Here it what Quartus said:

      Problem Details
      Error:
      Internal Error: Sub-system: IOO, File: /quartus/tsm/ioo/ioo_pin.cpp, Line: 481
      retval != nullptr
      Stack Trace:
          0x1385b: IOO_PIN::get_io_standard_desc + 0x12b (tsm_ioo)
         0x10b000: ADB_CDB_INTERFACE_BODY_IMPL::back_annotate_io_atom + 0x150 (ace_adb)
         0x10a799: ADB_CDB_INTERFACE_BODY_IMPL::back_annotate_atom + 0x629 (ace_adb)
         0x10a036: ADB_CDB_INTERFACE_BODY_IMPL::back_annotate_all + 0x336 (ace_adb)
           0x9207: ASL_BACK_ANNOTATER::do_back_annotate + 0x5f7 (prj_asl)
           0x4578: asl_back_annotate + 0x498 (prj_asl)
           0x9cd5: qatm_back_annotate + 0x435 (quartus_cdb)
           0x8847: QATM_FRAMEWORK::execute_pin_backannotation_pro + 0x217 (quartus_cdb)
           0x8d59: QATM_FRAMEWORK::execute_pro + 0x139 (quartus_cdb)
          0x137d9: qexe_do_normal + 0x1e9 (comp_qexe)
          0x19cef: qexe_run + 0x4cf (comp_qexe)
          0x1ad8a: qexe_standard_main + 0x26a (comp_qexe)
           0xa994: qatm_main + 0xa4 (quartus_cdb)
          0x14a08: msg_main_thread + 0x18 (CCL_MSG)
          0x160ae: msg_thread_wrapper + 0x6e (CCL_MSG)
          0x20fb0: mem_thread_wrapper + 0x70 (ccl_mem)
          0x13f8d: msg_exe_main + 0x20d (CCL_MSG)
           0xd7d8: __scrt_common_main_seh + 0x11c (quartus_cdb)
          0x17bd3: BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x13 (KERNEL32)
          0x6ce50: RtlUserThreadStart + 0x20 (ntdll)
       
      End-trace


      Executable: quartus_cdb
      Comment:
      None

      System Information
      Platform: windows64
      OS name: Windows 10
      OS version: 10.0

      Quartus Prime Information
      Address bits: 64
      Version: 19.2.0
      Build: 57
      Edition: Pro Edition
    • Mircea's avatar
      Mircea
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      5 years ago

      Kenny,

      Can you try and see if back-annotation works on the latest release, and then tell me for sure what the situation is?

      Is this a known issue with Q19.2 that has been addressed later?

      Thanks,

      Mircea

  • KennyT_altera's avatar
    KennyT_altera
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    5 years ago

    Yes, I had try it on the Q20.3. This quartus will be release soon.


    It should be a known issue since it is not happening on Q20.3.


    I will file a kdb/documentation for this.


    • Mircea's avatar
      Mircea
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      5 years ago

      Hi Kenny,

      I think we are set for now and we'll wait for the new Quartus 20.3.

      Thanks,

      Mircea