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13 years ago --- Quote Start --- If I took that to my assembly guy he'd :eek: --- Quote End --- I always ask the assembly company what they can handle first :) --- Quote Start --- No, that's why I kept saying they mirrored the BGA pads on the bottom of the board. --- Quote End --- Actually, you said two things; you said mirrored and you said on the ends of the vias. --- Quote Start --- Sheesh, you academics (my dad was/is one so I know what you're like). --- Quote End --- I live in the middle of nowhere, so have noone to talk to ... sniff sniff ... seriously though, I have noone to talk to about this type of PCB design, so I wanted to clearly understand what you were doing. Just call me pedantic :) --- Quote Start --- I'm not sure if we're using 'tenting' to mean the same thing. To me (and most on the Altium forums I think) 'tenting' means the via is covered in solder resist, but if your vias were tented you wouldn't be able to solder your caps on them. Do you mean they've been filled (I think they use epoxy) so the solder that's down for the caps won't wick down the via? --- Quote End --- Ah, I think you are right ... sorry 'bout that. --- Quote Start --- It would be interesting to see how having the cap directly connected to the via affects it's impedance, as seen from the BGA pad, compared to having the short stub as in my example. --- Quote End --- I'm sure no stub is better :) --- Quote Start --- Is this the sort of thing you could get students to do as project work? --- Quote End --- Alas, I really am in the middle of nowhere. No students in sight ... (none that I'd give a soldering iron to anyway) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/combined_array_for_research_in_millimeter-wave_astronomy --- Quote Start --- Another experiment would be incrementally removing decoupling caps from a working board and make noise measurements on the supplies. --- Quote End --- I haven't tried removing caps. I'd be afraid that I might reflow a BGA ball. The boards are 18 layers thick, with a lot of copper. --- Quote Start --- Just shows there's no 'correct' way of doing things. --- Quote End --- It is nice to discuss the possible solutions though. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Cheers, Dave