Poll: Do you want the internal simulator back?

I use Quartus for an introductory digital logic course I teach. I had to go back to 9.1 after realizing that the simple simulator was missing. I understand that a real testbench is the "safest" way to go, but it is really beyond students who are just learning the fundamentals of logic design. After we breadboard a few discrete logic designs, I have my students work through Altera's Quartus tutorial, and that uses the built-in simulator. Then they simulate everything and use an Altera DE2 FPGA board for all subsequent labs (again, nothing more complicated than adders, multipliers, counters and FSMs). BTW, the removal of the LPM functions breaks some of my course content as well.

In my former engineering job, I have also used the built-in simulator since Quartus 4.0 for quick tests of small modules. Certainly, for the larger commercial designs I do (control systems, etc.), the built-in simulator is not useful, but there are many smaller designs for Altera CPLDs and such that are small enough that the full simulator is not necessary. Altera still sells CPLDs, and I would think that many people still use Quartus for them, right? (I even have a few old 7128 designs I still support).

Anyway, hopefully there will be some usable simulator tool (or front-end) put back into later versions of Quartus 10.

Thanks,

Fred