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3 years ago

Not able to do fitting design with Quartus 22.1

Hi,

I am able to fit the attached design with Version 22.1std.0 Build 915 10/25/2022 SC Standard Edition.

However, I can fit the design with ease in Version 19.1.0 Build 670 09/22/2019 SJ Standard Edition

Please suggest what changes required to in settings file.

Attached qsf file (extension changed to .txt to attach here) and report files both versions.

The error I got with Version 22.1std.0 Build 915 10/25/2022 SC Standard Edition is

"Error (170011): Design contains 249203 blocks of type combinational node. However, the device contains only 227120 blocks."


Please note, due to confidentiality, I can't make available the source codes for these builds.

Regards,

Vikram

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  • VSavi3's avatar
    VSavi3
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    Hi,

    I have indeed used Normal settings for Auto Packed Registers. Attached is the freshly generated reports with 22.1.

    The problem is still the same.

    Please check if anything in the settings need to modified.

    Regards,

    Vikram

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    ShengN_altera
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    Hi,

    Then I think probably have to get a larger device. Migration from 19.1 to 22.1 most likely will involve many things being upgraded which probably will cause higher utilization. So now I got both fit reports of 19.1 and 22.1. By comparing between Fitter Resource Usage Summary of 19.1 and 22.1, clearly can see that it's quite full for 22.1 compared to 19.1 even ALMs utilization (114%) also had been exceeded 100% (image below). I would suggest that getting a bigger device.

    Thanks,

    Sheng

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    Hi,

    I reckon, this is not the solution I am looking for. If its easily fits in earlier version of software, then all that we can conclude is the latest version of software have bug.

    So unless Intel comes back with proper fix of the bug we can't use the latest software.

    Regards,

    Vikram

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    How about try with the settings below and see:

    Optimization Mode:

    Area

    Advanced Fitter Settings:

    ALM Register Packing Effort - High

    Fit Attempts to Skip - 2

    Perform Logic to Memory Mapping for Fitting - on

    Perform Physical Synthesis for Combinational Logic for Fitting - on

    Placement Effort Multiplier - 4.0

    Auto Packed Registers - Minimize Area with Chains


    One more is can you try to do another migration totally without any ip upgradation by ignoring the IP Upgrade Recommended box. Any difference?


    Thanks,

    Best Regards,

    Sheng


  • VSavi3's avatar
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    Hi,

    Please find the results of the run with your following suggestions.

    ---

    Optimization Mode:

    Area

    Advanced Fitter Settings:

    ALM Register Packing Effort - High

    Fit Attempts to Skip - 2

    Perform Logic to Memory Mapping for Fitting - on

    Perform Physical Synthesis for Combinational Logic for Fitting - on

    Placement Effort Multiplier - 4.0

    Auto Packed Registers - Minimize Area with Chains

    ---

    Regards,

    Vikram

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    Hi,

    Clean build too gave the same error.

    Regards,

    Vikram

  • ShengN_altera's avatar
    ShengN_altera
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    Hi,


    Could you provide the 19.1 design for bug identifying? Design is needed for engineering team to identify the bug as well.

    You can provide the design privately to my email qi.sheng.ng@intel.com and will be treated confidentially.


    Thanks,

    Best Regards,

    Sheng


    • VSavi3's avatar
      VSavi3
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      Hi,

      We can't provide the design IP.

      Regards,

      Vikram

  • ShengN_altera's avatar
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    Hi,


    Any further update or concern on previous post community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Quartus-Prime-Software/Not-able-to-do-fitting-design-with-Quartus-22-1/m-p/1508355#M79463?


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    Hi,

    We're still unable to use the Intel latest software. For now we will keep using the old 19.1 version.

    We hope Intel does fix this bug in future releases and then we will try to migrate to the new version of software.

    Regards,

    Vikram