8.0 sp 1 Find Dialog

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Hi,

I recently updated Quartus II WE to 8.0sp1. The text editor now has one little annoyance: when I enter a search string in the Find dialog, the focus is transferred to the editor. Usually after I find the necessary place in text, I would press ESC key to hide the Find dialog. But now that focus belongs to the editor area, the dialog never receives ESC keypress. The only way to hide it, thus, is to grab the mouse and close it by clicking. I use Find function a lot, it's my primary navigational method and behaviour like this is infuriating.

If this is not an appropriate place for reports like this, please point me to the right place.

Viacheslav

altera_forum · Answer

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If this is not an appropriate place for reports like this, please point me to the right place.

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*points to trash bin*

Actually I agree totally. You also can't do "Search Next" by just pressing Enter again (although there's a separate keyboard shortcut) or modify the search phrase. At the very least another Ctrl+F should transfer the focus back to where I can enter a new search. You could also press Esc at that point.

altera_forum · Answer

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You also can't do "Search Next" by just pressing Enter again...

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If everyone who wants the Find behavior changed would file a service request at https://mysupport.altera.com/, maybe Altera will eventually change it.

I requested that it work more like I'm accustomed to in other Microsoft Windows applications with the focus remaining in the Find dialog box on the Find Next button. The response was that it was made to work the way it does now because of someone else's request. If enough people ask that it be changed, Altera might change it.

altera_forum · Answer

What some applications that don't like the Microsoft approach do is close the Find dialog after each search. Note how this addresses both my and svofski's issues. No need for Esc and Ctrl+F lets you search again. The downside is that searching repeatedly is less intuitive (whether with the keyboard or especially the mouse). That's why Microsoft does it the way it does. Altera's idea of zooming to the text while not closing the Find dialog is the worst of both worlds. (Note: closing the find dialog and going to the text is very slightly more efficient of the two methods. But it's at the cost of much more inefficiency when people don't realize what F3 is for.)

altera_forum · Answer

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Note: closing the find dialog and going to the text is very slightly more efficient of the two methods. But it's at the cost of much more inefficiency when people don't realize what F3 is for.

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To find the occurrence I'm looking for, in other applications I often search repeatedly by simply pressing <Enter> multiple times. Leaving the Find dialog box open with the focus on the Find Next command is more efficient for that. It's easy to hit <Escape> without giving it a second thought to close the box after a single search. I'd be annoyed by having to reopen the dialog box repeatedly to search over and over for the same thing, but not as annoyed as I am by the current Quartus text editor behavior.

altera_forum · Answer

Find dialog behaviour wasn't broken in 7.1. It was annoying that each text buffer had its own search string, true, but it's merely a "feature". Focus was preserved.

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