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sveyland1
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4 years ago

Arria II GX Obsolescence and Replacement

Previously we were using FPGA Altera EP2AGX45DF29C5N in one of our products. Of course now it is obsolete.

According to information it seems possible to use EP2AGX45DF29C5G as a replacement, but according to the official data, this FPGA may differ significantly, but it is not very clear how exactly (https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/programmable/ us / en / pdfs / literature / pcn / pdn1926.pdf).

So I am trying to understand if the C5G is a complete replacement for the C5N? Complete in all respects, meaning form, fit and function. If not, what are the differences and how to find the info because so far we have not been able to figure out by ourselves.

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    AminT_Intel
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    4 years ago

    Hello,

    Hope you are doing well. I see that your device EP2AGX45DF29C5N is now obsolete. I see from PDN 1926 that EP2AGX45DF29C5G as the fully lead-free converted product.

    Below is sample order code if for you to understand your OPN specs:

    Customers are advised to migrate to part numbers compliant with the latest change in the EU RoHS Directive Exemption 15 (designated with a “G” suffix) . The “G” suffix part numbers use the same silicon, product specifications, and are generally form, fit and function equivalent to the “N” suffix part numbers. The only differences is the discontinued product use leaded solder bumps on the first level interconnect and the "G" suffix is the fully lead-free converted product. So yes, the EP2AGX45DF29C5G is the replacement of EP2AGX45DF29C5N.

    Thank you.

    • sveyland1's avatar
      sveyland1
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      4 years ago

      Hello Amin,

      Thank you for this response. The reason we have doubts is that additionally in the PDN1926 the part that you have written actually continues "...and are generally form, fit and function equivalent to the “N” suffix part numbers. Stratix III and Arria II GX (lidless) have changes to the package. Please refer to the notes section in the list of affected products."

      So our original EP2AGX45DF29C5G is a Arria II GX (lidless) so there is comment here that there is some changes to the package, which to us means that the replacement EP2AGX45DF29C5N may actually not be form, fit and function. Further in PDN1926 there is no additional notes section to see if our replacement is affected by the changes to the package.

      So this is why we are asking about the replacement. Can you help to clarify this doubt about possible changes to the package?

      Thank you.

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      sveyland1
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      4 years ago

      Hello Amin,

      I was also trying to understand if it is possible to get any insight into the expect life cycle for EP2AGX45DF29C5G.

      We do not want to switch to the replacement if it will also be made Obsolete soon.

      Is there any way to find out how much longer these parts will be produced so we can be confident in the ability to source the replacement part for the upcoming several years?

      Looking forward to your response. Thank you for your help.