Altera Devices with built-in Clock ???

Thanx for the info guys, i'll look into the internal osc asap.

I guess i'd simply feed this 3-5mhz signal into a divide-by-n counter, to give me a clock in the order of 100'sHz to a few KHz.

My applications are usually nothing that relies on critical timing, such as light chasers or logic control of other gear.

I'm sure if the freq differs between devices it probably won't affect my projects too much, at least nothing i'd probably notice ;-)

I could always tweak the clock divider for each chip if i was having probs ;-)

Thanx again, this is a step forward.......so far,

Marty.