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Stratix V Advanced Systems Development Kit SW4 Default Settings
The documentation for the stratix v advanced systems development kit (https://www.altera.com/products/boards_and_kits/dev-kits/altera/kit-stratix-v-advanced.html) seems to be incorrect in regards to the default settings for SW4. What is the correct default settings for that switch? Here is what the documentation illustrates:
https://alteraforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=13748&stc=1 I want to set up this board so that it loads the designs stored in flash. According to the documentation, it states that SW4.6 needs to be in the ON position, but switch 6 is for Clock Selection... Thanks, QG36 Replies
- Altera_Forum
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--- Quote Start --- It's different from ordinary secondhand sale and it's the only reasonable explanation about how the seller can get them and sell them at such price, given the customer H is still around. --- Quote End --- It is not different to the current owners ! Complain about the resale to the resellers. Not to the current owners. Just support them. They may be your current or future customers. - Altera_Forum
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--- Quote Start --- It is not different to the current owners ! Complain about the resale to the resellers. Not to the current owners. Just support them. They may be your current or future customers. --- Quote End --- Hi there, We are not in a position to complain anything to anyone here. We could have pushed all the inquires back because we are not responsible for no one according to the deal we made, but we've decided to at least take a look at the pin assignments. I truly hope those who bought this customized board from that ebay seller and yet still decided to keep it after they saw the facts here will be our future customers, but I personally wouldn't be that optimistic, not when the price gap is tremendous. Dav from Terasic - Altera_Forum
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--- Quote Start --- If you buy something which is not what you'd expect, you should return it and get your refund back, but then I saw the price listed from your link, I can totally understand why people still take the risk. --- Quote End --- I'm located overseas in Europe and payed by Paypal. Sending the item back is really expensive and getting refund for it will be quite difficult, because in my experience both Ebay and Paypal very often favour US sellers. But if it will be clear the board is really useless fro me, I will go this way. --- Quote Start --- For your information, the pictures are Stratix V GX FPGA Development Kit, Stratix V GX SI Development Kit, and SDI HSMC Daughter Card. Based on how you recognize the package, the contents can be any of these or even something else with a sealing sticker that anyone can print at home. --- Quote End --- The item description states "Stratix V GX FPGA Development Kit" and there is a matching picture, so it looked quite clear to me. My fault. --- Quote Start --- For the pin assignments that you care the most, I need to check if the pin assignments for both official and custom boards are identical first. If they are, you can use the official version as it's available from the website. If not, I'll take it back internally and let someone to review the deal to see if this will put us in a position that we disclose something which we shouldn't have. Please understand that our situation is difficult and we've never thought of how things will end up like this in the first place. --- Quote End --- I understand your position and therefore any information will be very appreciated. --- Quote Start --- I haven't seen anything like this before in my entire professional career over a decade (well maybe not long enough for most of you). The only possibility I can think of is a company is close to an end and they'd sell anything just to get as much as they can. --- Quote End --- I'm quite a newbie on FPGA, but at my work we buy a lot of hardware. When we buy servers from IBM or Fujitsu discounts of 25-35% of the MSRP on new items are standard. New 5 year old stock we often get with 80% or more discount. So this also looked valid to me. --- Quote Start --- I'd return the kit and post a negative feedback if I were you. --- Quote End --- Posting a negative feedback will most probably not stick, because the seller will dispute it and Ebay will delete it. --- Quote Start --- I truly hope those who bought this customized board from that ebay seller and yet still decided to keep it after they saw the facts here will be our future customers, but I personally wouldn't be that optimistic, not when the price gap is tremendous. --- Quote End --- Sad thing is Altera is not in the value chain of this board. I believe most people who bought this board need a Quartus license, so there could be a deal like board support package against license. I would buy it. - Altera_Forum
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As the original poster for this thread, I would just like to say that I appreciate Dav's efforts. It is definitely an issue for all of us who bought this board, but it really isn't Terasic's nor Altera's problem. We bought something on Ebay and hence it really is caveat emptor. Hopefully, with some good faith and gesture, Dav and Terasic comes through with some documentation to help us poor saps. The board is not a waste and hence can be utilized, but documentation is needed. BTW, the software from Intel was written in JAVA, and hence a bit of reverse engineering can produce the source code :)
QG - Altera_Forum
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--- Quote Start --- As the original poster for this thread, I would just like to say that I appreciate Dav's efforts. It is definitely an issue for all of us who bought this board, but it really isn't Terasic's nor Altera's problem. We bought something on Ebay and hence it really is caveat emptor. Hopefully, with some good faith and gesture, Dav and Terasic comes through with some documentation to help us poor saps. The board is not a waste and hence can be utilized, but documentation is needed. BTW, the software from Intel was written in JAVA, and hence a bit of reverse engineering can produce the source code :) QG --- Quote End --- I have ended up with two of these dual FPGA “Advanced Systems Development Kit” boards as well, paying quite a bit ($4800 each) and unfortunately not realizing these are not the device I thought they were. My serial number on one is 5SGXAS00000236 and P/N 0277 0K. i noticed the problem when I saw the QDR and MoSys missing, but I had been traveling so have no window to return. Can we at least have the pin assignments so we can use these boards? :( this is stomach unsettling. - Altera_Forum
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I realize this topic is old and maybe dead, but I hope maybe someone has figured something out???
- Altera_Forum
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--- Quote Start --- I realize this topic is old and maybe dead, but I hope maybe someone has figured something out??? --- Quote End --- Like what ? See my message# 16 in this thread. Just refer to the info on the 'Altera Stratix V Advanced Systems Development Kit' (http://www.terasic.com.tw/cgi-bin/page/archive.pl?no=733) but note that the FPGAs are 5SGXEABN2F45C2. Schematics seem to be exactly the same. Go to town. - Altera_Forum
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--- Quote Start --- Like what ? See my message# 16 in this thread. Just refer to the info on the 'Altera Stratix V Advanced Systems Development Kit' (http://www.terasic.com.tw/cgi-bin/page/archive.pl?no=733) but note that the FPGAs are 5SGXEABN2F45C2. Schematics seem to be exactly the same. Go to town. --- Quote End --- Thank you! I knew which chips they had switched to, but didn’t want to just guess that the schematics were the same. Shame to be missing the QDR but they’ll work - thanks! - Altera_Forum
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To those who have been tricked into purchasing this kit with AB device:
Sorry to keep you waiting for so long. The pin assignment has been confirmed to be exactly the same except the device where you have to change from A7 to AB. There's also a special version of BTS which would work on boards populated with AB devices. However, it's not our proprietary to release. I hope this official statement would clear some of the doubts to continue your work. Dav from Terasic - Altera_Forum
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Seems that my board is a bit different than what is on the Altera website. It doesn't seem to contain a 5SGXEA7N, but a totally different part and hence the BTS doesn't seem to run. It this correct?
D:\altera\12.1\quartus\bin64>jtagconfig.exe --debug 1) USB-BlasterII [USB-1] 029250DD 5SGXEABK(1|2|3)/5SGXEABN1/.. (IR=10) Node 0C206E00 JTAG PHY# 0 Node 0C206E01 JTAG PHY# 1 Design hash FB653F76C0B16C4AADE5 029250DD 5SGXEABK(1|2|3)/5SGXEABN1/.. (IR=10) Node 0C206E00 JTAG PHY# 0 Node 0C206E01 JTAG PHY# 1 Design hash 8E4E02F07546FCC33DB4 020A40DD 5M(1270ZF324|2210Z)/EPM2210 (IR=10) Node 00406E01 (110:8)# 1 Node 00406E00 (110:8)# 0 Node 00406E7B (110:8)# 123 Design hash 86229F1845461C797896 Captured DR after reset = (029250DD029250DD020A40DD) [96] Captured IR after reset = (15555555) [30] Captured Bypass chain = (0) [3]