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Wangjun8
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1 year ago

Noise tolerance of PDN Design

对于PDN设计的时候,对应的Noise门限按照什么来?是DS中的Min和Max来(AC Tolerance + VR Accuracy)?Ripple?AC Transient?还是Ripple+AC Transient?但是对于Transceiver又有Ripple、AC Transient,非Transceiver的是Ripple和AC Transient合并在一起说明的。对应的频率范围是考虑哪个区间的?100KHz~2MHz吗?

对应的IR Drop的判定是什么?DS中的Min和Max吗?

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    Farabi
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    Hello,


    May I know what is your question? I will try to answer.


    regards,

    Farabi


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    Farabi
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    English translate:

    When designing PDN, what is the corresponding Noise threshold? Is Min and Max coming in DS (AC Tolerance + VR Accuracy)? Ripple? AC Transient? Or Ripple+AC Transient? But for Transceiver, there are Ripple and AC Transient. For non-Transceiver, Ripple and AC Transient are combined together. Which interval is considered for the corresponding frequency range? 100KHz~2MHz?


    What is the corresponding determination of IR Drop? Min and Max in DS?


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    Farabi
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    Q1: When designing PDN, what is the corresponding Noise threshold? Is Min and Max coming in DS (AC Tolerance + VR Accuracy)? Ripple? AC Transient? Or Ripple+AC Transient?

    <ANS> recommended Noise threshold = Voltage Regulator ripple allowance + AC Transient


    Q2: But for Transceiver, there are Ripple and AC Transient. For non-Transceiver, Ripple and AC Transient are combined together.

    <ANS> Yes, correct. Commonly, Transceiver's Voltage Regulator requirement is higher ~1% ripple. The extra margin is transfered to AC transient to make sure the Power delivery can cover the current surge during transceiver's high frequency transitions in user mode.


    Q3: Which interval is considered for the corresponding frequency range? 100KHz~2MHz?

    <ANS> ftarget should be covering 100KHz to 10MHz. More than that the physical capacitors will not able to cover and this frequency range will be covered by on-die decoupling capacitors.


    Q4: What is the corresponding determination of IR Drop? Min and Max in DS?

    <ANS> please refer to Table 13 of AN910 for the recommended transient and step load spec. For IR drop you can refer to min and max in DS.


    regards,

    Farabi