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ModelSim required for Intro to Digital lab course?
For an intro to digital logic course does one need Modelsim for the lab?
We use Altera FPGA and introduce Verilog programing of simple circuits (Registers, counters, ALU etc..) Its seems all the coding can be done using Quartus Prime including some waveform simulation (VWF) for design verification. Of course, Quartus can then compile the design onto the FPGA hardware. Why would I use ModelSim in this case? any suggestions is appreciated.
thanks , Glen
8 Replies
- YEan
Contributor
Hi Glen,
May I know which digital logic course you refer to? Modelsim was a simulator to see how the code react to the stimulus. It is useful to debug the result if there are problem in your code. When your design gets complicated, it is suggest to use Modelsim to simulate.
You may refer this introduction to have more understanding
https://eecs.ceas.uc.edu/~purdycc/embedfall16/doc/tutorial_quartusii_simulation_verilog.pdf
Thanks,
Ean
- GHart10
New Contributor
Hi YEan,
thanks for the information. I teach introduction to digital logic lecture and lab at community college.
I have a better understanding of Modelsim now. It I want to do some sophisticated timing analysis on a complex system then Modelsim (now Questa) is great for this.
Thanks for the pdf document. I noticed its for Quartus Prime 16.0 which is alittle outdated.
I have used VWF program for some basic circuits (coutners, registers etc...).
One thing that confuses me is the 'University Program VWF' actually using Modelsim? So, Modelsim is embedded in Quartus Prime software?
thanks,
Glen
- YEan
Contributor
Hi Glen,
University Program VWF' is not using Modelsim, it was Intel’s Quartus Prime CAD system.
Yes, Modelsim is embedded in Quartus as it can be used independently or in conjunction with Quartus, Xilinx, and more.
Thanks,
Ean
- GHart10
New Contributor
Hi Ean,
that makes sense now. When I took over the lab class we used VWF which honestly is kindof clunky. I think it makes more sense to introduce students to both Quartus and Modelsim early as thats what industry uses.
Are there any Intel seminars/tutorials that show how to use Modelsim with Quartus/Verilog? A good introductory class. I haven't found any so far...
thanks for your feedback,
Glen
- YEan
Contributor
Hi Glen,
There are demo videos for Modelsim such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eviC0jP90ZA or you may find related video from Intel FPGA's Youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0wEPiFb0J6AZZ3oPXRoRpw . Please do note that starting with Intel® Quartus® Prime version 21.3, the ModelSim*-Intel® FPGA edition software has been discontinued and replaced by the Questa*-Intel® FPGA Edition software. You may refer to this https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/software/programmable/quartus-prime/model-sim.html?wapkw=modelsim .
Thanks,
Ean
- GHart10
New Contributor
Hi Ean,
Thanks for the update
-Glen