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mfro
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8 years ago

OMG. What did you think?

As there doesn't seem to be any dedicated feedback forum for forum issues anymore, I post here to express my complete dissatisfaction with the new 'solution':

Although the old Altera forums weren't especially fast and user friendly, the new one appears to me as huge quantum leap. Backwards.

It's awfully slow, apparently buggy (messages about Javascript blocking the browser everywhere), pages constantly displaying busy indicators.

Long story short: I consider it completely useless in it's current state. If you want to get rid of your trusty Altera customers, this is a perfect way to do so...

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  • DBay's avatar
    DBay
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    8 years ago

    I have been an Altera user for over 25 years. I used to agree 100% with your first paragraph. I haven't used Quartus since 14.1, since all my work has been on older(ie not Stratix V) chips that the new software doesn't support. This new 17/18 software has documentation that makes XIlinx look good. I NEVER thought I'd be saying this.

    It used to be that Quartus was sooo much better than anything else I was spoiled. I hated the Xilinx tool set. VIvado still isn't great, but at least what it has doesn't crash. It's features may not always work well, but it doesn't crash. Their documentation is horrible from the tool set, but a google search will usually find the correct answer. Altera? I'm still trying to figure out how to get any documentation that is relevant to the page that you tried for help on.

    I agree completely with your second paragraph.

    I agree VIvado has less features, but it doesn't crash. 18 is almost on par now with Vivado since any advanced features either don't work anymore or they crash.

    Sad....... ( yes, this reference is intentional.....)

  • schendel_nsf's avatar
    schendel_nsf
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    8 years ago

    I feel that Intel is doing itself a disservice by calling the two Suites Prime and Prime Pro.

    In reality the Prime software is the "ISE" package for still supported but not improved "legacy" chips, whereas Prime Pro is the "Vivado" for newer chips, that is still updated.

    As I would like to use the same VHDL code (blocks) on Cyclone IV and Arria10, I feel kind of left behind: I cannot update to VHDL2008, because it is not supported for the Cyclone IV.

    The same thing goes for the C++ support on the Nios II SBT, which is stuck at gcc 5.3 (C++14), although, here I think you can use the Pro tools with the standard version (if that is allowed).

    On topic: Still waiting for a way to see posts since last visit...