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14 years ago

EP330PC-15 information needed

Ok, trying to repair an old ISA board that has an EP330PC-15 on it. I'd appreciate any information about this device.Yes, kinda old( 20 years) but this is alegacy device that must be maintained.

Altera website came up empty..

Thanks

Jay

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    You didn't yet tell about the exact nature of the intended maintenance respectively upgrade.

    - replacement of defective parts

    - rebuild the original board

    - redesign the board with a functional equivalent logic device

    Do you have a binary (*.jed are whatsover) programming file, or are you able to readout the original programming, knowing that the security bit isn't set? Or do you have A+PLUS project files?

    Without some of this data, even original EP330 devices won't help much.
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    The quest is to replace the 'end-of-life' EP330s with new chips.It should simply involve desoldering the existing chips and replacing them with new ones(or equals) that have the same 'program' in them.

    IF I had the pinout of the EP330 at least I'd KNOW which are inputs and outputs...it'd be a start. Since it's a 20 year old chip it can't be that complicated! I've thought about using a simple breadboard to toggle inputs and observe the outputs...once I have the pinout...

    I do know that pin 2..9 are tied low,pin 1 has a 12MHz clock to it, and 11,13..16 go 'somewhere'..at least there's scope 'action'.

    I do not have ANY information aside from what I've decoded in a quick rev-eng session to see what it's connected to.Can't 'read' it if security has been set so my 'breadboard' test should give me what I need to know...once I know the pinout..

    I'm beginning to figure out I should NOT have tossed out an entire wall of databooks a couple of years ago. I know I had Atera books....sigh..

    It's looking like I have to rev-eng the EP330 which should take less than a month or two if all goes well.I could speed that up by 1/2 if I had the pinout.Sure hate to lose the contract as originally I'd thought maybe 1 month to do the whole job.Great coins to time ratio.....
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    As far as I remember, EP330 has basically the same pin structure as EP320 (and also the popular 20 pin GAL/PALCE devices, as I already mentioned). That means, pin 12 to 19 are optional bidirectional pins. Pin 1 is a dedicated clock 2 to 9 and 11 are inputs.

    There's a fair chance that PALCE16V8, that is still available, can be used as a pin compatible replacement.
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    thanks for the info. I downloaded the 320 info, maybe the 330 is a 'windowless' equal to the 320 ?

    Jay